16' Double ender w/ transom - Wooden Boat People2024-03-29T05:52:12Zhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/forum/topics/16-double-ender-w-transom?id=1312281%3ATopic%3A129034&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI wasn't able to trim the new…tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2021-07-26:1312281:Comment:2510272021-07-26T15:47:24.621ZDavid Wittonhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/DavidWitton
<p>I wasn't able to trim the new layer of glass on the bottom perfectly flush everywhere</p>
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<p>but I found the perfect tune up tool</p>
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<p>I wanted to ensure there was a good…</p>
<p>I wasn't able to trim the new layer of glass on the bottom perfectly flush everywhere</p>
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<p>but I found the perfect tune up tool</p>
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<p>I wanted to ensure there was a good surface to bed the new chines to. After a quick check with a straightedge</p>
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<p>It was time to resaw the old chines from 3/4" thickness down to 3/8". The steamed in curve made it a bit tricky, so I built a simple jig to help secure them as they were cut</p>
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<p>With help from a friend, that went off without a hitch. After a bit of work with a belt sander and router, they almost look like new. The Totalboat Lust varnish worked well spot treating the dings in the hull - I plan to add a couple of coats over the whole hull before reinstalling the chines. </p> On my original build I had us…tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2021-07-22:1312281:Comment:2507272021-07-22T16:44:48.729ZDavid Wittonhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/DavidWitton
<p>On my original build I had used Resin Research epoxy and supplies from Fiberglass Supply in Washington. This time I went with Totalboat 2:1 resin from Jamestown Distributers, mostly because I wanted to try out their Lust varnish without paying shipping. The package arrived Tuesday, so I masked out the hull and got to work, first wetting out the bottom, then laying on the 1708 cloth. As expected, that stuff is tougher to work with, both in wetting out and later in trimming. I used about 64 oz…</p>
<p>On my original build I had used Resin Research epoxy and supplies from Fiberglass Supply in Washington. This time I went with Totalboat 2:1 resin from Jamestown Distributers, mostly because I wanted to try out their Lust varnish without paying shipping. The package arrived Tuesday, so I masked out the hull and got to work, first wetting out the bottom, then laying on the 1708 cloth. As expected, that stuff is tougher to work with, both in wetting out and later in trimming. I used about 64 oz of resin to wet out the cloth, and 36oz each in 2 subsequent coats to fill in the weave, each one mixed with West System 423 graphite powder.</p>
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<p>When I trimmed the edges, I got out a tool I hadn't used in quite a while</p>
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<p>it was quite a bit easier than just holding on to the razor blade. Next step is to strip off all the masking and get to work on the varnish. </p>
<p></p> David, I think you are doing…tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2021-07-15:1312281:Comment:2503842021-07-15T18:24:16.687ZRick Newmanhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/RickNewman
<p>David, I think you are doing well with your refinishing. I recently used the Lust Varnish and while I haven't had it out on the water the initial results and application procedure were great.</p>
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<p>David, I think you are doing well with your refinishing. I recently used the Lust Varnish and while I haven't had it out on the water the initial results and application procedure were great.</p>
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<p></p> Great updates, David!Yes, I'd…tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2021-07-14:1312281:Comment:2505432021-07-14T20:57:42.078ZShawn Bakerhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/ShawnBaker
<p>Great updates, David!<br/><br/>Yes, I'd use paraffin or hot glue in the drain plug bores and glass right over it; dig/cut it out later.</p>
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<p>Great updates, David!<br/><br/>Yes, I'd use paraffin or hot glue in the drain plug bores and glass right over it; dig/cut it out later.</p>
<p></p> After 5 years of floating, I…tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2021-07-13:1312281:Comment:2505402021-07-13T16:22:55.546ZDavid Wittonhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/DavidWitton
<p>After 5 years of floating, I figured it's time to flip the boat over and do a bit of maintenance. First, transfer the boat from the trailer to the dolly</p>
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<p>and flip it over. The bottom looked a bit beat up -…</p>
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<p>After 5 years of floating, I figured it's time to flip the boat over and do a bit of maintenance. First, transfer the boat from the trailer to the dolly</p>
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<p>and flip it over. The bottom looked a bit beat up -</p>
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<p>the trailer bunks had caused a bit of wear, and there was a hole into the structure. The bottom is a composite, the inner layer is 1/4" of hydrotek, covered with 10oz of glass, then 1/2" of Nidacore then another layer of 10oz cloth coated with West Systems graphite. During the build, I had plenty of advice suggesting a layer or two of 1708 cloth instead of the last layer of 10oz - I should have paid attention to that advice. After a bit of hemming and hawing about the cost and effort of another layer of cloth, I decided to do the right thing. At this point, I need to tip my hat to Guy Fredrickson (and others) on this site who set a high standard and inspire the rest of us. Adding a layer of cloth meant I needed to remove the chines, which gave me a chance to fix something that had been bugging me about the boat's handling. The chines were 3/4" thick, and then gave the current quite a bit of purchase on the hull when entering and leaving eddies. I'm hoping to improve that by resawing them down to 3/8 before reinstalling. I removed the stainless bang strip</p>
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<p><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9241114881?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="640" class="align-center"/>and then the chine - at this point I was grateful I had used a polysulfide bedding compound when I installed them - taking them off was a snap. The residue cleaned up with a sharp chisel.</p>
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<p><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9241126056?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="640" class="align-center"/>the hull had a few scratches and a couple of dings</p>
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<p><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9241127700?profile=RESIZE_710x" width="640" class="align-center"/>that I filled with some mahogany sawdust mixed with epoxy.</p>
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<p>I took a belt sander with an 80 grit belt to the bottom and patched the hole to get it ready for the next layer of cloth, and sanded the hull with 220.</p>
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<p>Where the varnish was scratched I got more aggressive, taking it down to bare wood in places, and will need to add several coats of varnish in those spots before a couple of coats to the whole hull. I'm planning to use Jamestown's Lust varnish for these spot builds, mainly because of it's quick drying time. </p>
<p>At this point I'm scratching my head about just what to do with the drain plugs. </p>
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<p>I need to protect these holes with something before I add the layer of cloth - I'm thinking of filling them with paraffin, which I'll dig out later. Perhaps someone out there has a better idea....</p>
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<p></p> Provided the layer of glass y…tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2017-12-13:1312281:Comment:1498392017-12-13T22:32:15.864ZDavid Wittonhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/DavidWitton
<p>Provided the layer of glass you applied is recent enough for a chemical bond, I'd just bed the battens in thickened epoxy then use the remainder for the fillets. </p>
<p>Provided the layer of glass you applied is recent enough for a chemical bond, I'd just bed the battens in thickened epoxy then use the remainder for the fillets. </p> Hey David, I just glassed the…tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2017-12-13:1312281:Comment:1497342017-12-13T19:55:45.955ZBennett Yarbroughhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/BennettYarbrough
<p>Hey David, I just glassed the underside of my deck this morning and had a question, do you flow coat the glass before gluing and filleting the battens on?</p>
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<p>Hey David, I just glassed the underside of my deck this morning and had a question, do you flow coat the glass before gluing and filleting the battens on?</p>
<p></p> Now all you have to do is han…tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2016-06-08:1312281:Comment:1393632016-06-08T22:04:53.629ZDavid Wittonhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/DavidWitton
<p>Now all you have to do is hang it off your transom for the next Missouri trip!</p>
<p>Now all you have to do is hang it off your transom for the next Missouri trip!</p> How about a 1928 2.5 horse wi…tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2016-06-08:1312281:Comment:1393622016-06-08T22:00:59.449ZRick Newmanhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/RickNewman
<p>How about a 1928 2.5 horse with the tank in the shroud? I have one I would sell you. No I don't remember the brand right now but I am leaning towards Evinrude. I repaired about thirty years ago and got it running for my step father. He later gave it to me.</p>
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<p>How about a 1928 2.5 horse with the tank in the shroud? I have one I would sell you. No I don't remember the brand right now but I am leaning towards Evinrude. I repaired about thirty years ago and got it running for my step father. He later gave it to me.</p>
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<p>Rick N</p> Thats a pretty good clip at 5…tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2016-06-08:1312281:Comment:1393612016-06-08T21:58:25.862ZMike Thomashttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/MikeThomas833
<p>Thats a pretty good clip at 5 mph. Those 4 strokes are heavy. Thats about what my 2 cly 8 hp mariner weighs. But its way too much for my boat. If my day ever comes, I`ll seek a 2.75 merc with the tank in the shroud, thats my dream setup :)</p>
<p>Thats a pretty good clip at 5 mph. Those 4 strokes are heavy. Thats about what my 2 cly 8 hp mariner weighs. But its way too much for my boat. If my day ever comes, I`ll seek a 2.75 merc with the tank in the shroud, thats my dream setup :)</p>