Caulk no gue - Wooden Boat People2024-03-28T11:27:38Zhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/forum/topics/caulk-no-gue?feed=yes&xn_auth=noYes to all those questions. …tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2023-03-09:1312281:Comment:2584492023-03-09T02:16:21.496ZSandy Pittendrighhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/SandyPittendrigh
<p>Yes to all those questions. I started this boat in 2019 and then got hit by a pallet of bricks falling off a crane. Otherwise known as Covid 19. It's three years later and I am finally back to where I can work again. I"m about a month from rowing, but still 2000 miles from my shop. Enjoying ideal snow conditions in South Texas. Chasing redfish.</p>
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<p>This boat does have a molded fiberglass bottom, bolted to 3/8" Hydrotek sides. I thought it was a good idea and indeed maybe it…</p>
<p>Yes to all those questions. I started this boat in 2019 and then got hit by a pallet of bricks falling off a crane. Otherwise known as Covid 19. It's three years later and I am finally back to where I can work again. I"m about a month from rowing, but still 2000 miles from my shop. Enjoying ideal snow conditions in South Texas. Chasing redfish.</p>
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<p>This boat does have a molded fiberglass bottom, bolted to 3/8" Hydrotek sides. I thought it was a good idea and indeed maybe it is. But it is tits on a bull too. I got started on this boat before I realized the implications. If a wooden bottom panel can be made easy to remove and replace, then the molded fiberglass bottom was a complete waste of time. It was a of work.</p>
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<p>And yes. Dowsil 795 is very good caulk making a strong bond. But by itself it is not enough. Mechanical fasteners and marine silicone together make it all work. I have made a few mistakes in this build. Everything about it is new. To me anyway. I've had to remove a few parts and rework them. And I can tell it is not easy. Marine silicone bonds and grips like a starving monkey. But it is also just barely weak enough to let go BEFORE any surrounding wood breaks too. That's what makes it work. </p>
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<p>Most white water boats have a fixed deck. This one has a clamp down deck, clamping down over a thick foam gasket. This is the second boat I've built with a removable deck. That is one idea that panned out. A removable deck makes getting camping gear out of the boat a lot easier. And hull maintenance easier too.</p>
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<p>I'm starting to think all boats should be decked. Decked fishing boats could be lower, which makes them easier to get onto and off of. And not wind sails. And yet still capable of big water. Low but decked makes a better white water boat than any open boat. I'm looking forward to Yankee Jim Canyon on the Yellowstone, and the Beartrap on the Madison. </p>
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<p>This will be an epic runoff year on the Green too. I hope a cancellation gives me yet one more trip in Desolation Canyon. Especially this year. Oh boy it is going to be big.</p>
<p></p> Sandy, I love seeing your ide…tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2023-03-09:1312281:Comment:2584462023-03-09T00:53:43.090ZBennett Yarbroughhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/BennettYarbrough
<p>Sandy, I love seeing your ideas on the various websites come to life. Is this the boat with a glass floor/tub with ply bolted on for sides? As far as not too sticky glue, is there any concern of it removing itself in a bad wreck or is that where the screws come in? Please keep the photos coming, I enjoy your ideas!</p>
<p>Sandy, I love seeing your ideas on the various websites come to life. Is this the boat with a glass floor/tub with ply bolted on for sides? As far as not too sticky glue, is there any concern of it removing itself in a bad wreck or is that where the screws come in? Please keep the photos coming, I enjoy your ideas!</p> I posted the above photo on F…tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2023-03-08:1312281:Comment:2585492023-03-08T18:08:51.937ZSandy Pittendrighhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/SandyPittendrigh
<p>I posted the above photo on Facebook group where members talk about white water dories. One guy complained my rower's foot well didn't look wide enough. He may well be right. I doubt it. This is my second decked boat and the first one is fine, with the same sized foot well.</p>
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<p>But even if he is or was right, this aptly demonstrates the value of medium-strength glue construction. If it turned out I needed to make a wider foot well it's no big deal. My deck fastens down with…</p>
<p>I posted the above photo on Facebook group where members talk about white water dories. One guy complained my rower's foot well didn't look wide enough. He may well be right. I doubt it. This is my second decked boat and the first one is fine, with the same sized foot well.</p>
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<p>But even if he is or was right, this aptly demonstrates the value of medium-strength glue construction. If it turned out I needed to make a wider foot well it's no big deal. My deck fastens down with wire clamps, over a 2" thick foam gasket. So would pop the deck off, turn it over and back out all the Torx screws that hold the foot well tight to the bottom of the deck. Take if off and build a new one.</p>
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<p>If, on the other hand, the deck had been glued in place, semi-permanently, as most Grand Canyon dories are made, making any modifications below deck becomes a nightmare. Now it's easy. </p>
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<p>So that guy's criticisms don't hold water.</p> tag:woodenboatpeople.org,2023-03-08:1312281:Comment:2584452023-03-08T15:42:33.487ZSandy Pittendrighhttp://woodenboatpeople.org/profile/SandyPittendrigh
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<p>The only glue (above the bottom shoe) is in the gluelaminated gunwales, which are made from 7 layers of random length 1/4" thick ash, 2-1/2 inches tall. I wish I'd made them 3" tall. Glue-lam gunwales sure are stiff.</p>
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<p>The only glue (above the bottom shoe) is in the gluelaminated gunwales, which are made from 7 layers of random length 1/4" thick ash, 2-1/2 inches tall. I wish I'd made them 3" tall. Glue-lam gunwales sure are stiff.</p>
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