How is everything with you, I picked interest on you after going through your short profile and deemed it necessary to write you immediately. I have something very vital to disclose to you, but I found it difficult to express myself here, since it's a public site.Could you please get back to me on:(mrsstellaabudheir@gmail.com ) for the full details.
Craig,
I just noticed a comment from a ways back you left me... I am have never worked with the fisheries/biology dept... although that would be a really cool gig. I did get pretty interested into becoming a Conservation Officer here in Michigan, but the budget cutbacks have been slowly cutting the DNR off at the knees here in MI. I have always thought that would be a really interesting way to be involved in the outdoors and protect our resources. (Instead I followed my other passion and got hooked up in doing graphic design/art related stuff).
Anyways - my boat is getting close. I am hoping to have it done in the next month or so. Just need to get the accessories hooked up and it should be ready to go. I made a game-time decision to varnish the exterior of my boat, while the surface is not perfect I figure I can always paint over it if it annoys me down the road.
Your paint job looks great by the way.
I will keep you posted on how the convertible 17x52 rows when I get her on the river... I think it should work well. My girl and I are planning on taking her on the Big Manistee River here in nw MI.
Craig- Nice work. The sides are incredible fair! I love the color as well. You should be really pleased. How was the quick fair to work with? I have read the instructions and understand that it needs an additional flow coat to seal the quick fair, which seems to be counterproductive. I'm I missing something here?
agian the blue paired with the wood really looks nice.
Brian
Thanks for the info. Things are coming along. I decided to make the rowing seat adjustable which took some time to figure out. ,I am almost completely finished with the interior and should be ready to oil. I am not going to make it to OR for the festival. I have to be in SLC for work that weekend. I am planning on taking my boat to the festival over here on the Snake in May. I should have some pics soon....
Hey I have a question about your paint. Did you go with the Interlux Briteside? If so how much did you order and is that enough? Let me know your thoughts when you get a second.
So Craig, how is your groove coming? Any luck yet? I have decided to build the kit before I try to rebuild " Lazarus". Keep us informed on your progress.
Craig, as my friend Greg Hatten knows, I've been fortunate to fish all over the place. Fly in helicopter trips - Dean River - Babine and more in BC. Love to fish the standards, Deschutes, Klickitat, Cowlitz, East Fork of the Lewis, Kalama, North Umpqua, Rouge. When I do go after trout, I have fished all of Wyoming, Idaho, many rivers in Colorado and we have a favorite where we catch 20+ # Rainbows and recently discovered the Owyhee in Eastern Oregon. Have you fished that one? 3# Browns a dime a dozen (20 + fish a day this size), 5# Browns common and that occasional 10# Brown. I did catch one Rainbow there last October I estimated by measuring to be about 8#. All of these fish on size 20 and 22 hooks. Little stuff but deadly.
That paint doesn't sound fun. Which sucks cause I am going to paint the outside of mine. Your pics look good. I have no idea when I am going to be able to fish. I wish I could get it done to bring it up to Oregon, but with some upcoming business trips and the time between now and then getting shorter, I don't think I am going to get her finished. I keep "obsessing" over stuff, and I ends up taking substantially longer than I had hoped. However, I think I can see the end. Who knows :D!
In one of your pics it looks like you are putting new rub strips on... yes? If so are you painting? The wood looks rich and wonderful. I am excited to see how it turns out. Man I wish I could come up there at the end of the month.
Anyway, I wish you wonderful progress on the project this weekend.
My camera battery died last night but it revived enough to get some pictures this morning. I will attach them here. I don't think I will have to worry about doing a partial scarf like AJ so generously provided. I'll have to do a scarf on two new sheets of plywood because I am going to replace both sides. See the pictures of the rotten wood and poor repairs on the other side. Since the frames are rotten on the ends, I'll replace them also. Also the chine logs and chines are bad or going away so they will be new. With all that new wood, I'll probably replace everything else too! If you look closely at last nights pictures you will see rusty iron/steel screws. Everywhere they were installed water had entered and the wood rotted. I have a feeling that this boat is much older than 1984, but I'm not certain how fast iron can rust away to nothing and how long it takes wood to rot. At least the bottom is pretty solid, the seller said it was recently replaced. Too bad they didn't do the entire job right. Since I got laid off from my job officially today I may have some extra time to dedicate so I can complete the boat before the 24th.
Craig, yesterday I got some time to look at the remainder of the boat. Take a look at my blog for details. Bottom line is I will have to replace all frame members and the sides. If your friend is serious about wanting the boat I could build up to his color choices, epoxy coverage, fiberglass on sides, varnish or piant on inside, etc. Can you ask him if he would like to talk about it and see if we could acheive a deal? If not then I will just use my best judgement.
Big Horn River, MT. We were fishing from Fort Smith to 3 Mile takeout August 4, 5 and 6th last year. We tried every black fly we could think of, the fish didn't like our offerings. Apparently a Rusty spinner size 18 was what the fish wanted. Of course the owner of the camp we stayed didn't tell us that until we were leaving.
Craig,
Will that boat be ready for the Festival and the Float on the 25th... hope so - should be a fun day and a great "group float"... let me know if you need help sanding or painting - I'm pretty slow but I'm persistent as hell.
GH
Craig - Both are Tracey O'Brien S&G designs, the first built by a friend (who modified the plans a bit) and the one in back is mine. I uploaded another pic that has a better view of how they are constructed. It's a very simple, but ingenius design that I claim no credit for and my friend cribbed it from someone else, so I can't say who came up with it. The rear braces are attached through the gap in the gunwales with a section of threaded rod bent in the shape of a "J" with and then inserted into clear tubing so as not to chaffe the wood. the upsidedown "J"'s are held in place with wing nuts and lock washers. You'll notice that the forward piece of wood is placed on the backside of a rib and the back piece is placed on the front side of a rib. This allows the pressure put on the braces to hold it better in place......Make sense??? It took some trial and error to get the correct lengths.
I cut a new yoke out of the same Cedar that I used on the floor and about 3/4" thick. On the back of that yoke I am going to attach a "ripped strip" about 1/2" thick by 1" wide where the casting deck (when I figure out how to cut the stupid thing) will attach. Then through that rip strip I am planning on using 2" grabber screws (about 4) to hold the horns on. This is how the horns were attached when I got the boat, with new materials. I have attached a few photos of the new yoke.
Craig,
Pre-construction assembly was done in a long day. I pre varnished everything with three coats prior to assembly and pre painted the exterior. Due to the rapid consruction schedule(losing my shop space), and the fact that I had no help there was some touch up needed after I finished. Had I had an extra set of hand, or more time there would have been little or no touch up post construction. I think I will actually spray another two coats of varnish on the inside when the weather warms as this boat will see a lot of actual use. The limiting factor on speed was without a doubt the drying time between coats of paint, varnish, and epoxy. That being said, take your time on every single part of the project and try not to move on until your are happy with the step your working on. Take your time on the pre finishing and it will turn out great. It will really help if you have a concise vision of how you want the boat to turn out, then just dig in. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have as you get rolling although most guys on this site know quite a bit more than I do. Good Luck!
Thank you for the complements. I have put a lot of hours into this project, but it has been great. I just saw the pics of your boat all primed up. Looks great. I wish I had some pearl of wisdom the exposed screw's but alas I don't.
I got sick this week, thanks kids, and did almost nothing on my boat until this weekend. My parents were here this weekend and my dad and I made a little progress this weekend. Completely finished all floorboard work and got the new front seat almost finished. I have the rowing seat, back seat, back knee braces, fly deck, handrails, oil and painting. Man it always sounds like so much more when I write it down.
Craig,
I have been building mine since the fall - but mainly on the weekends. Hoping to have it done mid-summer. My boat is a low side version of the Tatman 17x52... I think low side is the way to go for our slower meandering rivers for windy conditions. My boat is Meranti - and the exterior parts have been coated with epoxy prior to assembly - but the interior is left bare as I have decided to oil it. I am also thinking of painting my boat.
The kits are top notch, and the scarfs are a cool looking feature that Randy and Sandy are doing exclusively. I was sold on the boat after we went to the McKenzie show last spring and took a ride in one of their boats...
I am not sure that I am going to be able to make it up to Or this year. I would love to I will just have to see how things pan out. The sun is awesome, although it has been raining here quite a bit lately too. Like you I am thankful for the rain as it fills the lakes and reservoirs and keeps the rivers high late into the summer.
The boat is coming along. I keep posting picture here and looks at the pics and think, "man that looks like crap, I need to redo that part"... oh well. I am hoping that it's just the lighting. I have the floors mostly completed. I am going to be rebuilding the front seat and rowing station next. The the fly deck and back seat. After that I just need it to warm up enough to start applying the oil to the interior. I am getting stoked to get back on the water though. Soon I hope.
Well I wish you no work travel days and some unexpected vacation time.
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Good Day,
How is everything with you, I picked interest on you after going through your short profile and deemed it necessary to write you immediately. I have something very vital to disclose to you, but I found it difficult to express myself here, since it's a public site.Could you please get back to me on:(mrsstellaabudheir@gmail.com ) for the full details.
Have a nice day
Thanks God bless.
Stella.
I just noticed a comment from a ways back you left me... I am have never worked with the fisheries/biology dept... although that would be a really cool gig. I did get pretty interested into becoming a Conservation Officer here in Michigan, but the budget cutbacks have been slowly cutting the DNR off at the knees here in MI. I have always thought that would be a really interesting way to be involved in the outdoors and protect our resources. (Instead I followed my other passion and got hooked up in doing graphic design/art related stuff).
Anyways - my boat is getting close. I am hoping to have it done in the next month or so. Just need to get the accessories hooked up and it should be ready to go. I made a game-time decision to varnish the exterior of my boat, while the surface is not perfect I figure I can always paint over it if it annoys me down the road.
Your paint job looks great by the way.
I will keep you posted on how the convertible 17x52 rows when I get her on the river... I think it should work well. My girl and I are planning on taking her on the Big Manistee River here in nw MI.
agian the blue paired with the wood really looks nice.
Brian
Thanks for the info. Things are coming along. I decided to make the rowing seat adjustable which took some time to figure out. ,I am almost completely finished with the interior and should be ready to oil. I am not going to make it to OR for the festival. I have to be in SLC for work that weekend. I am planning on taking my boat to the festival over here on the Snake in May. I should have some pics soon....
Thanks again for the info on the paint.
Jesse
Hey I have a question about your paint. Did you go with the Interlux Briteside? If so how much did you order and is that enough? Let me know your thoughts when you get a second.
Thanks,
Jesse
Rick Newman
That paint doesn't sound fun. Which sucks cause I am going to paint the outside of mine. Your pics look good. I have no idea when I am going to be able to fish. I wish I could get it done to bring it up to Oregon, but with some upcoming business trips and the time between now and then getting shorter, I don't think I am going to get her finished. I keep "obsessing" over stuff, and I ends up taking substantially longer than I had hoped. However, I think I can see the end. Who knows :D!
In one of your pics it looks like you are putting new rub strips on... yes? If so are you painting? The wood looks rich and wonderful. I am excited to see how it turns out. Man I wish I could come up there at the end of the month.
Anyway, I wish you wonderful progress on the project this weekend.
Tight lines...
Jesse
rick
Rick
Rick Newman
Will that boat be ready for the Festival and the Float on the 25th... hope so - should be a fun day and a great "group float"... let me know if you need help sanding or painting - I'm pretty slow but I'm persistent as hell.
GH
I cut a new yoke out of the same Cedar that I used on the floor and about 3/4" thick. On the back of that yoke I am going to attach a "ripped strip" about 1/2" thick by 1" wide where the casting deck (when I figure out how to cut the stupid thing) will attach. Then through that rip strip I am planning on using 2" grabber screws (about 4) to hold the horns on. This is how the horns were attached when I got the boat, with new materials. I have attached a few photos of the new yoke.
Cheers,
Jesse
Pre-construction assembly was done in a long day. I pre varnished everything with three coats prior to assembly and pre painted the exterior. Due to the rapid consruction schedule(losing my shop space), and the fact that I had no help there was some touch up needed after I finished. Had I had an extra set of hand, or more time there would have been little or no touch up post construction. I think I will actually spray another two coats of varnish on the inside when the weather warms as this boat will see a lot of actual use. The limiting factor on speed was without a doubt the drying time between coats of paint, varnish, and epoxy. That being said, take your time on every single part of the project and try not to move on until your are happy with the step your working on. Take your time on the pre finishing and it will turn out great. It will really help if you have a concise vision of how you want the boat to turn out, then just dig in. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have as you get rolling although most guys on this site know quite a bit more than I do. Good Luck!
Thank you for the complements. I have put a lot of hours into this project, but it has been great. I just saw the pics of your boat all primed up. Looks great. I wish I had some pearl of wisdom the exposed screw's but alas I don't.
I got sick this week, thanks kids, and did almost nothing on my boat until this weekend. My parents were here this weekend and my dad and I made a little progress this weekend. Completely finished all floorboard work and got the new front seat almost finished. I have the rowing seat, back seat, back knee braces, fly deck, handrails, oil and painting. Man it always sounds like so much more when I write it down.
Good luck this week.
Cheers,
Jesse
I have been building mine since the fall - but mainly on the weekends. Hoping to have it done mid-summer. My boat is a low side version of the Tatman 17x52... I think low side is the way to go for our slower meandering rivers for windy conditions. My boat is Meranti - and the exterior parts have been coated with epoxy prior to assembly - but the interior is left bare as I have decided to oil it. I am also thinking of painting my boat.
The kits are top notch, and the scarfs are a cool looking feature that Randy and Sandy are doing exclusively. I was sold on the boat after we went to the McKenzie show last spring and took a ride in one of their boats...
I am not sure that I am going to be able to make it up to Or this year. I would love to I will just have to see how things pan out. The sun is awesome, although it has been raining here quite a bit lately too. Like you I am thankful for the rain as it fills the lakes and reservoirs and keeps the rivers high late into the summer.
The boat is coming along. I keep posting picture here and looks at the pics and think, "man that looks like crap, I need to redo that part"... oh well. I am hoping that it's just the lighting. I have the floors mostly completed. I am going to be rebuilding the front seat and rowing station next. The the fly deck and back seat. After that I just need it to warm up enough to start applying the oil to the interior. I am getting stoked to get back on the water though. Soon I hope.
Well I wish you no work travel days and some unexpected vacation time.
Cheers,
Jesse
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