Afer looking at the pictures/plans in Roger Fletches book, this little boat might be next winters project. Never built a framed boat, but have several stitch and glued and glued lapstrakes from 12 ft to 17 ft under my belt.

Two questions:
Curved stems and sterns are really elegant and add a good look to many small boats. Has anyone built a framed boat with with curved stems?

Clear Northern White Spruce is locally available in 4/4. Aside from a little increase in weight is there any problem using it instead of 3/4?

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There is no problem in using the White Spruce. The curved stem would have the distinctive look of old school canoes.
You can see photos of tumblehome stems at Montana Boatbuilders. It is a distinctive look.

Boats built on the McKenzie River traditionally have a straight stem because they are cut on a table saw and the straight triangular cut is a very efficient use of the wood.

Willie Boats, a Rogue River aluminum boat builder, turns their stem out at the top in the opposite direction of the tumblehome curve. The extra flair at the top gives a dry ride in white water which makes this boat very popular for the Rogue. At Tatman Boats we taper the stem, wider at the top and narrow at the bottom to accomplish a similar affect as the Willie. This gives us a scribe fit stem that allows the front of the boat to flair a bit more at the top that helps deflect water in the big waves while the straight front of the stem looks very traditional.
go for it. I may be building the same boat for a friend in Michigan this winter. I spoke to Roger several times about it, and he knows it is on my short list..

or the 16' double ender.
I can attest to the benefits of the curved stem on the Willie, it really does provide a drier ride for the passengers.

On another note, two weekends ago a group of friends and I just did our first Rogue canyon trip of the year. We had quite a few people with us who had never been down before, so we did the whole tourist trip for them stopping at all the sites to give them the full experience of this awesome run. On the last day of our three day run we stopped by Paradise to show the group the flood level markers walking up to the lodge and take a quick look around. I hadn't been up to the lodge for years and had completely forgot about the neat old double ender under the awning by the grass. That old boat still looks pretty good and to me, it sure would be a cool boat for running the canyon solo in. I forgot to take pictures of it, but in the next couple weeks we should have all our groups pic's compiled for a nice trip report. Another buddy has a site where he keeps track of most of our trips, so hopefully one of our crew of 12 got some pictures of the boat. Does anybody know any history of this boat? I always forget to ask the lodge people about it when we're wandering around.

Mike

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