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Permalink Reply by Jonathan Clarke on June 3, 2012 at 9:44am

When I titled my boat in Wisconsin, the state fortunately took me at my word when I said I had paid sales tax on the materials as I went along.  Always good to avoid double taxation!

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Permalink Reply by Kent R. Feldsted on June 5, 2012 at 10:41am

Joseph, did you use vacuum bagging when you laid up the hull panels? If so, do you have any additional photos that show the process & how you did it?

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Permalink Reply by Joseph Podesta on June 5, 2012 at 10:55am

no i did not use vacuum bagging for the hull. i rolled on and sanded then rolled on again, then sanded then rolled on...sanded...rinse repeat...that was for the side panels. bottom is a composit of kevlar, glass, plywood and two layers inside and out of durabak. the side were joined with bottom via the stich and glue method using biaxial tape and fillets.

I have seen vacuum hulls made but that is a bit beyond most builders. It requires a mold to be made plus a big investment in materials probably beyond most builders budgets. i am sure home builders have done this but I wanted a wooden boat not a 100% fiberglass boat. Biggest reason was wieght wood and fiberglass is lighter, plus these boats ride higher in the water. I could be wrong but I think these stitch and glue boats a lighter than thier 100% wood framed cousins..but again I could be wrong. they are definately lighter than 100% fiberglass or epoxy boats.

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Permalink Reply by Randy Dersham on June 9, 2012 at 9:36am

Hello Joe, 

There have been quite a few discussions about framed boats vs SnG boats to determine overall final weight.  Materials and the design or weight of built in boxes and or seats seem to be the determining factor.  

The bottom line is that there is very little difference between the weight of a Port Orford Cedar framed boat with traditional West Coast seating and a SnG boat that requires the fiberglass and built in seating for stiffness.  

The main reasons are that most SnG boats are skinned with 3/8 plywood and most framed boats are skinned with 1/4 inch plywood.  Most SnG boats require more built in seating and fiberglass layup while the traditional framed boat uses minimal additional seating boxes and storage and can be built with no fiberglass at all. So the weights of materials offset.

There are lots of reasons to decide to go one way or the other and I love them both.  Just wanted to let folks know that weight is not the major reason to make the SnG decision over framed.  Materials used and the final build out will affect the final weight much more than the building style. 

Fantastic job on your boat. It's very nice and has been fun to watch the progress here on the site. 

  

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Permalink Reply by Lawrence E. Long on June 9, 2012 at 5:01am

Great looking job- glad the back is healing up.

Good Luck

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