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Chine Material Question
I am not having much luck finding good white oak for chine stock.
What options do I have for chine stock besides the oak? What have you guys used?
Any feedback appreciated. Thanks!
Jason K.
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Permalink Reply by Randy Dersham on
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Ash bends well but is not as rot resistant and will stain with some fasteners.
Some mahogany is tough enough for a chine; however, it seems that the stronger the mahoganys are more dense and don't bend as well.
Check out this link for lots of lumber info. http://www.glen-l.com/wood-plywood/bb-chap5c.html
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Permalink Reply by Mike Baker on
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Hey Jason,
I have been using Mahogany on my last few boats. It bends pretty well but not as well as Oak and is more rot resistant than Oak.
On my current build I tried Sepelli and broke two so I switched back to Edinam (African Mahogany) went in no problem.
Mike
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Permalink Reply by chris towles on
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Try a cabinet shop. I had good luck finding white oak in long lengths by calling around. I hear mahogany and ipe are also excellent choices. If you are worried about breakage I bet a long length of 4" PVC could be had for cheap thru plumbing recycling to make a cheap quick and dirty steamer box.
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Permalink Reply by Greg Jensen on
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Just a heads up about Ipe.
This is a very hard and dense wood, (it does not float). I am using it for my gunwales. I am building a 18' boat and have had a terrible time with the scarphs. The Ipe is so dense that the epoxy will NOT soak into the wood very well, so my scarph joints don't hold up to being bent. I have tried 3 different approaches to this problem, including scoring the ends to be scarphed, as well as 2 different types of epoxy. I should just change to oak, but alas I have never been very bright. My 4th attempt should be finished curing this week and I will report after I attempt to bend it again. As a side note, when Ipe joints break, it can be quite impressive. On my last attempt I ended up with a 4' length sticking out of my wall.
Good luck...
Greg
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Permalink Reply by Ben Kittell on
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Got a picture? You know how we all love pictures on this site!!!
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Permalink Reply by Phillip Westendorf on
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Jason,
Here in Michigan L.L. Johnson Lumber Mfg. Co., Charlotte, Mi has everything you'll need for your boat including White Oak, Mahog, Marine Plywoods, and lots of other exotic woods. I've used them frequently and they have an on-line catalog. Here's their catalog address.
http://www.theworkbench.com/pdf/1007strtgrn.pdf
if you find what your looking in the catalog call them, they are very helpful. They are not the lowest cost in town.
There's a few small mills up in Mid-Michiigan that you can get Oak, Ash, Maple and other popular local woods, just today I was with a friend and he picked up approx 60BF of nice looking 4/4 Red Oak for $ 1.00 BF, (Air dried). Pallet Mfg'rs can be a source, it's hit and miss sometimes but can be worth the effort.
G'Luck
Dorf
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Permalink Reply by Jason Knight on
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Dorf,
The mill in Charlotte told me they don't have any good white oak for chines. They are not super far so that was my first thought. I will need to do some more calling around.
Thanks!
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Jason,
There's a local Mill about 15 miles West of Saginaw, Barn Door Lumber. They aren't as big as L.L. Johnston but have a decent stock of lumber. Give them a call, 989 894-7966.
Here's their address: http://www.barndoorlumber.com/aboutus.htm
They are good to do business with, as I have several times.
G'Luck,
Dorf
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The guy from Barn Door was super helpful! Thanks for the recommendation!
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Permalink Reply by Jayson Hayes on
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Ipe is also a very oily type of wood and probablly wont take a glue joint very well, i would go with a more open grain type of wood like mahogany
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Few use Doug Fir I have noticed. Reasoning behind that??? Too soft maybe? I used CVG Doug Fir for the last boats chine log as well as sheer rails. Did notice that it got chipped up fairly easily on the sheer rails. Mahogany good to use for chine caps and sheer rails too?
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I think that Ray Heater really likes fir chine logs. Perhaps he'll jump in on this thread. I've seen a number of older boats with Doug-fir chine logs. Mahogany cheer rails are attractive and don't stain. They are very nice on a blond boat.
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