Phillip Westendorf
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Frame Strength Comparisons
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I have been meaning to post this information for some time now.  I just re-discovered the pictures on my computer and decided to share this information.  I might be of interest to some of you…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Guy Fredrickson Dec 31.

Varnish Issue
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HELP! I have made a new pair of 8 ft. Oars and after finish maching them I added two coats of neat epoxy with 6 oz. glass on the edges of the blades (25" long section). This is the third pair of oars…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Phillip Westendorf Mar 16, 2017.

Framing Design Variabiles
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This subject has been around in recent posts, so I am adding this to help folks here better understand how the different construction methods compare.When I decided to build a drift boat back in…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Mike Thomas Aug 15, 2015.

Bottom Coating for Wooden Boats.
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Hey folks I just was reading another forum's posting on alternate sealants and coatings and it struck me that this may be another option for a Drift Boat Bottom Coating.  There has been prior…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Don Hanson Jul 25, 2015.


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Guy Fredrickson replied to Phillip Westendorf's discussion Frame Strength Comparisons
"Hi Phil, Interesting article. However, I don't see why the #2 arrangement would be "stiffer" than the other two. I don't see the same taper in the profile in #2 that I see in #1 and #3. To me, the sides in #2 look strictly…"
Dec 31
Phillip Westendorf replied to Phillip Westendorf's discussion Frame Strength Comparisons
"Greg, My concerns at the time I did this I had not built anything more than a cedar strip canoe.  Frames, I thought were another whole thing.  As I now look at things from a different perspective.  I see the "light" as you…"
Dec 31, 2018
Greg Tatman replied to Phillip Westendorf's discussion Frame Strength Comparisons
"A fun article. For a perspective, though, one must remember that the strength of a frame joint can be quite strong, or just adequately strong without making a lot of difference. Remember, glass boats, or aluminum boats have no frames at all!…"
Dec 30, 2018
Phillip Westendorf replied to Dusty's discussion First build
"Dusty, As you progress in the build please post some pictures. Phil w"
Nov 24, 2018
Phillip Westendorf replied to Dusty's discussion First build
"Dusty, How thick is the plywood, 1/4", same as the sides?  What do the plans call for for thickness?   I'd think you'd need at least 3/4" thick Transom if your going to mount anything on it, like an anchor pully,…"
Nov 23, 2018
Phillip Westendorf replied to Dusty's discussion First build
"Dusty, 5200 from what I understand is considered a "bedding compound" not a glue.  It has real good stickey characteristics and gap filling but I don't think will work well as a structural fastener.  It is usually a messy…"
Nov 23, 2018
Phillip Westendorf replied to Phillip Westendorf's discussion Dorf's Wooden Drift Boat
"Rick, Hope all's well with you and yours.  I have been watching a series of YouTube videos, "Sampson Boat Co".  A sailor and boat builder is restoring a 1910 Gaff sailing boat.  Somewhere in your back yard.  Check…"
Nov 6, 2018
Phillip Westendorf replied to JC Smith's discussion Graphite for bottom
"JC, Be careful in how much you add to the epoxy, too much will make the epoxy brittle.  I had this problem and had to remove a couple layers of epoxy with graphite and the went back and added several more.  Here's West Systems…"
Nov 6, 2018
Phillip Westendorf replied to Dusty's discussion First build
"Dusty, On my build I used West System's Six-10 thickened epoxy.  It comes in a caulk gun tube and easy to apply in just the right place and amount.  Worked fine for me.  Jamestown Distributers also has a comparable product and is…"
Oct 11, 2018
Phillip Westendorf replied to Dan Poole's discussion Wood boat covers?
"I have a cover made in Oregon by 5 C's Boat Covers.  It's five years old and is still like new.  Check them out. Dorf"
Oct 3, 2018
Bennett Yarbrough replied to Phillip Westendorf's discussion Dorf's Wooden Drift Boat
"dwarf I kinda like it.  If anyone asks just tell them you embraced the hit and decide to showcase it.  Its kind of like the Jeeps around North Georgia with dented fenders and plenty of rock rash.  When they're next to a shiny…"
Aug 22, 2018
Phillip Westendorf replied to Phillip Westendorf's discussion Dorf's Wooden Drift Boat
"Well I think it's time to fess up.  My repair to the hole in the side of the drift boat has been complete now for a few months.  It didn't turn out as I'd like.  The color of the cedar strips I used looked ok when I…"
Aug 21, 2018
Phillip Westendorf replied to Bennett Yarbrough's discussion Trailer spring weight
"I took mine out this week and paid better attention to how it rode on the highway and was pleased it rode smooth at 50-55 MPH, just like you described.  I have two ratchet straps holding it down and they keep it nicely secure to the carpeted…"
Aug 21, 2018
Phillip Westendorf replied to Bennett Yarbrough's discussion Trailer spring weight
"BY,  I went with 1000 lb springs when i built my trailer.  They didn't have anything lighter.  They work really nice.  At 70 MPH on x-way you can't feel the boat there.  I think the trailer actually out weighs the…"
Aug 9, 2018
Phillip Westendorf commented on Mitchell Culbertson's blog post how prepped does the bottom need to be before glassing
"Belt Sander, 36, 40 or 60 grit It'll do it!"
Aug 9, 2018
Phillip Westendorf replied to Brian King's discussion My 1972 Don Hill kit is done!
"Brian, Now some pics of her in the water, fish slime is good too! Phil "
Aug 9, 2018

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Saginaw. MI
About Me:
Hobbies: Wood Carver, Woodworker, Fishing.
Boats I own:
1969 SS-170 Slickcraft, 16 ft. Peterborough Cedar Strip Canoe, 16 Ft. Wooden Drift Boat, Launched in 2014

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2016 Mid-West Wooden Boat Float and Outing

Last year there was some discussion about having a Wooden Boat Outing somewhere in the East.  I have had discussions with some folks here and on other forums about having one here in the Mid-West, possibly Michigan.

If the is anyone interested in participating or to help put one together please add you comments here. We'll see what interest there is and go from there.  Don't be shy!


Posted on December 10, 2015 at 6:00pm — 4 Comments

DB Motor......

I've never been a proponent of a motor on a drift boat, but....  After a few times down the local rivers here in Michigan I am thinking it might be better to drop in at a location and then fish the river either Upstream or downstream then motor back to the drop-in point (Increases time fishing vs. rowing).  I end up fishing just a small portion of the rivers.  The spotting fees here are reasonable, money isn't the primary issue, it's the time spent rowing Frog Water to the take out point is…


Posted on November 13, 2015 at 5:48pm — 7 Comments

DB Trailer Roller

I just went through this exercise and thought it maybe helpful to others.  My goal was to build a roller with as much material readily available and minimize high cost materials and specialty skills.

The drawing is a sketch I made recently to plan the roller, bearing mounting and mounting.  My roller is 54" Long.



Posted on May 18, 2013 at 7:46pm — 2 Comments

Scarfing Jig Design.

I have been asked to share this information with one of the members of this site and am posting it here so others who may be interested in this can benefit. 

I made this jig several years ago (2006) while building a cedar strip canoe.  As I have begun to build my Drift Boat, I made changes to accomodate the different pieces the boat requires.  Also I have updated the clamps.  The drawing below has been updated to reflect the revisions.  The pictures shown below is of the current…


Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:08am — 3 Comments

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At 12:56pm on May 2, 2014, Arnold a. Koch said…

Hi Phillip,

I found the web page for the catch and release nets that you were asking about the other day.

Sorry I did not answer your all your questions the other day.


At 6:24am on September 23, 2013, Chris Patterson said…

Thanks Phillip, I got your note.  I have already got the drain plug though.

At 1:57pm on March 16, 2013, Josh Wieschowski said…

Yeah Phillip, that is a good idea. It seems to me that making some oars is quite mysterious? Its hard to find info or get definate answers. We should exchange ideas soon! Talk to you later!

At 4:17pm on March 13, 2012, Jason Knight said…

Hey Phillip,

Just wanted to say hello, I see you are from Saginaw.

I live downstate in the Ferndale/Royal Oak area, but spend a lot of time up on the rivers chasing fish. Talk to you later!



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