Kirk Miller
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Looking for proper sized oar stoppers
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I just finished restoring some 1983 Smoker oars for my drift boat and the oar stoppers are cracking and splitting.  The replacements I found online and at our local raft shop have a 1 5/8 inch ID,…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Kurt Selisch May 2.

Keith steele boat oars
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I restored a 1983 Keith steele drift boat ( you can find my discussions on the project on this site) and recently the original owner gave me what he called the oars that came with the boat. They are…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Rick Newman Mar 8.

Smoker Oar restoration
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I restored a Keith Steele 1983 drift boat a couple winter's ago and I recently obtained what appears to be the original oars.  I have 3 Smoker wooden oars that Jimmy Gabettas, the original owner of…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Mitchell Culbertson Aug 1.

Oar balancing and weight
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I have a 1983 Keith Steele drift boat that I restored last year and I am working on a few upgrades.  When I purchased the boat 2 years ago, it came with 9 ft long Sawyer wooden paddles.  They are…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Phillip Westendorf Mar 1, 2017.

 

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Mitchell Culbertson replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Smoker Oar restoration
"But they do have Sawyer decals I believe. Might be a good compromise? I love smoker solid ash oars. I missed a set of 4 last year at an estate sale by being 15 minutes late to the start of the sale. All 4......50 bucks. "
Aug 1
Kurt Selisch replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Looking for proper sized oar stoppers
"Nice to meet you at the Wooden Boat Festival. Good job on the oars, they look great."
May 2
Kirk Miller replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Looking for proper sized oar stoppers
"Thanks for the input. Boiling water and a good roll did the trick with a little canola oil too. I did the float down to the Wooden Boat festival and they stayed put, so all is good."
May 1
Bennett Yarbrough replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Looking for proper sized oar stoppers
"Ill second the heat it up method, took mine and threw them in the oven till they were a little too hot to hold with bare hands.  Stuffed the blade against a baseboard, straddled the oar and rolled the sucker on.  No drama, pops right…"
Apr 17
Kurt Selisch replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Looking for proper sized oar stoppers
"Kirk, here is an article about Frank's custom oars, third picture down shows Frank seating an oar stop. Necessity is the father of invention..... http://oregonflyfishingblog.com/2009/04/17/buying-locally-franks-custom-oars/"
Apr 17
Kirk Miller replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Looking for proper sized oar stoppers
"Thanks Kurt, these are stiff and haven't rolled, but maybe with more heat they will. "
Apr 16
Kirk Miller replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Looking for proper sized oar stoppers
"Thanks Dave, I like the boiling water idea. Raft shop used their ski boot liner heater, which probably didn't get as hot. I used oil to get the old ones off, so I will try alcohol as well. "
Apr 16
Kurt Selisch replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Looking for proper sized oar stoppers
"I have always found it easier to roll them on. Put them in a pot of hot water like Dave Z suggests which will make them very flexible. Slide them on the oar as far as you can, then with palm of you hands on the very outside of the stop, pull down…"
Apr 16
David Jensen replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Looking for proper sized oar stoppers
"Since my stoppers are in place, I can't measure them.  The way I have put on stoppers is to coat them in liquid detergent before pushing/pulling."
Apr 16
Dave Z replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Looking for proper sized oar stoppers
"I just stretched a pair of the 1-5/8" ones on 2-1/4" shafts.  I boiled them in a pot, put gloves on, then lubed them up with rubbing alcohol.  It took some effort but it works. "
Apr 16
Kirk Miller commented on Randy Dersham's event McKenzie River Wooden Boat Festival
"Taking a week and driving from Montana with my boat in tow. My wife is coming along and a friend from Eugene may join us.  Visiting friends in Boise, Bend, Eugene and Portland along the way, so we will put some miles on the 35 year old trailer!…"
Apr 15
Kirk Miller replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Smoker Oar restoration
"I want to recreate the Smoker Oar logo on the blades after I sand them and before I varnish them. I am a horrible painter with an unsteady hand, so painting them myself would be a disaster.  I have a painter who could do them, but I would…"
Mar 20
Richard Sutherland replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Smoker Oar restoration
"I refinished some wood oars filling the cracks with T-88  two part epoxy without cutting the v. Worked great. If you save some sawdust from sanding you can mix that in for strength. After sanding, I finished with Total Boat penetrating epoxy,…"
Mar 17
Kirk Miller replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Smoker Oar restoration
"if I fill the gaps on the tip with sculp wood epoxy putty or epoxy sawdust paste is it likely to hold up or will it chip out the first time I scrape a shallow riffle?"
Mar 10
Rick Newman replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Keith steele boat oars
"Kirk, I too purchased a pair of light Sawyer oars for $50. The only issue with the ash oars was the rotted wood that started under the tip protectors that had been installed and trapped water. Here is the posting on the rebuild…"
Mar 8
Kurt Selisch replied to Kirk Miller's discussion Keith steele boat oars
"I think Smokers were traditionally ash."
Mar 8

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Hometown:
Helena MT
About Me:
I am a fly fisherman and restored a 1983 Keith Steele boat in 2016. I am working on little details like improving anchor performance, oar weight balance and rod holders as well as adding another couple of coats of varnish on the exterior and teak oil on the interior during winter 2017.
Boats I own:
Keith Steele Model 16

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