Well, after a few well-deserved setbacks, we riveted the final strake onto the Edith yesterday, and will roll her right-side up in an hour or two. She sure is cute--I fear all the boy boats will be hitting relentlessly on her. Here are a couple shots. Lots more on fretwaterlines.blogspot.com



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Comment by Brad Dimock on February 22, 2011 at 10:27pm



It's a bit of a project to get in to see the Music Temple. I don't expect to be back up there again this year, so can't help on that. They are stored away in a remote locked warehouse, so you have to get someone to escort you and let you in. I would bet you'll be awful close if you use those plans I sent. I am using a set drawn by the same team for my build of Edith. There are some glitches, but by cross checking with other views, they can usually be resolved.

As the story goes, Martin got two hulls from Keith Steele. Reilly decked the Susie Too, Martin decked the Portola, and neither saw the other's concept of decking until they got to Lee's Ferry.

Here's Martin. It is a bit hard to keep him on track, but it's all still in there:

180 Bear Gulch Dr

Portola Valley, CA 94028-7945

(650) 851-2616


Also--Allen Wilson has decided he doesn't have the time or resources to rebuild the Betty Boop, so I am coming up to get her--maybe in June.

Comment by Randy Dersham on February 22, 2011 at 10:08pm

Brad, do you have Martin's phone number or address. I'd like to give him a call. 


Thanks again for all the photographs of the Suzie Too.  They are going to be a big help.  Greg and I are just getting started on the twin hulls made by Keith.  The plan was that I build the Suzie Too and Greg build the Portola.   I'll be happy to share any of the info that I pull together from this build.  I've been overly careful about the measurements from the plans that were sent to me; however,  a few things look like they want to be done in a way I know that Keith would build and that would require some small changes to the measurements on the plans. 


I design on a CAD program that makes it easy for me to tweak things on the shape of the boat and then "unroll" a surface to the flat cut out.  One of the things that I'm very sure of given the boat measurements from the Music Temple and the unrolling is that the bottom was cut in a straight line per normal Keith Steel style.  What I'm not sure I believe is that it appears the sides are at a normal height and not a high sides.  It looks like it really wants to be cut from a single eighteen foot panel.


Is there someone within a close distance to the Music Temple that could take just a couple of measurements for me so I can be sure.  One would be the length of each stem, the other would be the width of the side panel at the stem, oarlock, and other stem.


I'm 99% sure I have this right but my heart says it is easy to miss when I'm trying to rebuild this far from the original.

Comment by Brad Dimock on February 22, 2011 at 9:53pm

Sounds great, Greg. Keep me posted. I may well buy the new MacBook Pro if the new release looks tempting. The battery is supposed to be good for twelve hours of use on one charge, which is plenty of time to transfer video memory. My old laptop is kaput and I need one for road shows anyhow. That would solve all my memory backup issues.


RE: the Susie Too-- I may build something along those lines next winter as well for the 50th anniversary in 2012. If you guys are doing that boat, maybe I'll do the Portola if I can find good images from Martin. At 94 he's still doing well. The original, renamed Diablo Canyon, rotted mostly away before he gave it to Derald Stewart. Derald later went a bit batty after his wife died and burned the thing.

Comment by Greg Hatten on February 22, 2011 at 9:18pm
Brad - Don't spend any money on the camera yet - I've got a couple of things "cookin" with Oregon Scientific and Contour to sponsor a few "wooden boat adventures". At the very least, I can get you a Contour HD camera at "cost" - but I think I can do better than that.  I met with Oregon Scientific last week and I'm meeting with Contour tomorrow morning.  I'll keep you posted - and I'll challenge them with finding a solution to the two-week river trip.  Randy and I are starting the replica builds of the Susie Too and the Portola and I'd like one or both of those companies to be involved.  GH
Comment by Kelly Neu on February 21, 2011 at 6:08pm
Or you could convince a videographer to come with you and hand off the tech logistics to them!
Comment by Brad Dimock on February 21, 2011 at 6:06pm
Well, I was just thinking of getting a sack of GoPro batteries, as they are only $20, since recharging down there seems impractical (unless you know of a good system).

All the pocket storage drives I have found get their power from the laptop. Dammit.

As far as I can tell so far, it's either a new laptop or a bag of SD cards.

I hate bringing tech on the river, but it's the Kolb boat, and the whole point of the Kolbs' 1911 trip was bringing a (the first ever) movie camera. So I am stuck with it!
Comment by Kelly Neu on February 21, 2011 at 5:13pm
Seems like a pocket drive/mini portable USB external drive could work.  They are about $100 for 500GB.  Make sure you've got a way to charge your batteries too.  Seems like the Gopro battery last about an hour on continuous video/photo.
Comment by Brad Dimock on February 21, 2011 at 4:41pm

I am currently leaning toward to GoPro over the Contour, just because my two video guys here use them and have lots of knowledge, parts, experience with them. I am looking for a hard drive backup that doesn't require a laptop, so I can dump video off the SD cards during a two-week river trip. So far it looks like there's no such thing. May have to get that new laptop I've been holding off on. (The new MacBook Pro comes out this Friday....) Any other ideas here, other than just buying SD adds by the dozen?
Comment by Greg Hatten on February 15, 2011 at 8:31am

Hi Brad - great boat!!  I might be able to help with the HD camera questions - I used a little Contour camera last year to capture several of my wood boat adventures with a mount on my hat, on my boat, and on a little boom I made for underwater shots.  


All of my video's are on my website under the video tab... the best one for underwater footage is called "Under the Upper".

Wooden Boat Adventures

At the very least, I can get you a dealers price on the Contour - but my relationship with those guys is turning into something a little bigger... I'll keep you posted.

Greg H

Comment by Brad Dimock on February 15, 2011 at 8:05am
I guess it was a launching point, as the sweep scow five years earlier was not really a boat.

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