Wooden Boat People
By McKenzieDriftBoat.com
Chris Kitterman's Pram Sequim, WA
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Permalink Reply by John Weston on
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yes, now get it in the water. well done Chris. thanks Arnie for posting the pram. we need to get more interested in this pram and bring it back to the PNW.
JW
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Permalink Reply by Phillip Westendorf on
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Absolutely a Beautiful Boat!!!! A trolling motor or Oars?????
Next, a pic with a nice Steely or Trout at the end of your line.
Dorf
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Permalink Reply by Arnold a. Koch on
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Hi Phillip,
Most of the prams are fittted out for both oars and 30 lb. electric trolling motors. Electrics power with a deep cycle RV battery will give us a days fishing and get us home.
Arnie
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Permalink Reply by Frank R on
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I am interested in how she handles. Can you stand and cast easily? How much does she weigh? Trailer or truck bed?
I am interested in a similar concept, very light boat, but it will probably look different. I have to move it over 100 yards and then drop it down an embankment to launch, and recover.
What are the basic dimensions?
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Hello Frank,
Most of the prams weigh about 65 lbs enpty. Yes we stand and cast plus we operate our electric motors while standing. I suggest that if you are going to drag one of the prams over the ground that you could make a sling for it with two bicycle wheels. Kind of a trailer! Or fiberglass the 6 mm ply on the bottom and coat it with carbon reforce epoxy at the cost of about 6 added pounds. We have used this technique and it is quite easy to recoat for touchup and tough!
How do they handle? They draw about 3 inches of water with 300 lb. load. They are dry handle most wave conditions. They have lots of rocker and turn on a dime and handle class one rapids. Speed with 30 lb trust motor is about fast jog! They track well at trolling speeds because of the tri-keels.
Demensions about 7'-9 lenght and 46" on the chine with a 16 " feeboard.
Check out the plans on Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?id=0TYBAgAAQBAJ&dq=Port+Ludlow+fl...
Hope this is of help, Arnie
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Thanks. I clicked on the link but was unable to do anything else, other than add it to my Favorites list. Is there a way to purchase or download from that site?
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Yes, the link works.
Just a comment: red oak should not be used in boat building. White oak is ok.
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that's what I was wondering but till Arnie says different then that's what it is. he's been building boats for a long time. maybe you just seal it real good, I don't know.
JW
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Hi Frank,
White oak would also work provided you can find it! We use red oak because we can find it at the big box stores.
The gun rails and one frame are made from red oak. They are not emersed in water and are covered in epoxy which makes them water proof. Several of the prams are going to celerbrate 10 years of use this year with out any problems with red oak.
I'll rest my case, Arnie
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Epoxy makes them highly water resistant, but not water proof. Other woods can be used too. Eventually the red oak begins to turn black from staining.
I was surprised the instructions did not call for the non-painted wood (brightwork) to be varnished. Epoxy will turn milky or cloudy with time and exposure to UV rays. A good, honest spar varnish (the old fashioned stuff) will keep all that brightwork looking bright. But it will need to be re-varnished every two to three years.
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Frank,
This is for those who say red oak brittle and can not bent as well as white oak.
Photos are of 20 inch catch and release fly fishing nets made from red oak that taught the fly fishing club to build. Frames are made from red oak?
Arnie
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