Southeastern Fir Supplier?

Been calling around for the past few weeks trying to get my hands on some CVG fir in Atlanta.  I was pointed to Randall Brothers and they told me they only had mixed grain.  Another place has rough sawn 4/4 but for almost 9 dollars a board foot.  Anyone know of other options?  I get weird looks when I ask about quartersawn cypress... I'm building Mike Bakers 17 x 54 but so far I've gotten nowhere fast without frame lumber.  If anyone has a good supplier I'd appreciate a tip.  Thank you

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Permalink Reply by Rick Newman on July 5, 2016 at 3:02pm

Bennett,

http://www.woodfinder.com/ has been a good source to find suppliers of wood around the US. Let me know if it helps.

Rick N

Permalink Reply by Bennett Yarbrough on July 6, 2016 at 10:05am
I tried it Rick and nothing turned up. I can get Doug fir no problem, it's the CVG that I'm having trouble tracking down. I'm open to other suggestions. I'm thinking I may go back to the place with mixed grain and try to work with the straighter parts of those boards and using the leftovers for non structural stuff like floors
Permalink Reply by Rick Newman on July 6, 2016 at 11:43am

Have you considered, Cyprus, Port Orford Cedar, Alaskan Yellow Cedar, Sassafras? Check out this site it might help you determine which available wood will work for you:

http://www.wood-database.com/

I don't know what region of the US you are in so I can't point to suppliers others have used.

Rick N

Permalink Reply by Bennett Yarbrough on July 6, 2016 at 2:49pm
I'm in Atlanta, GA. Cypress is widely available. I guess my question has kind of morphed into do you have to use quarter sawn lumber for frames or can you get by with a tight grained flat sawn lumber? I've tried searching but couldn't find this question asked before. Thanks
Permalink Reply by Rick Newman on July 6, 2016 at 3:03pm

Originally POC and AYC were chosen because of their resistance to rot, ease of taking fasteners, inexpensive(relatively), ease of acquisition, easy to work, and took finishes well. Since the frames are just one part of a system I don't know why they would need to be quarter sawn. When I refer to system I mean the frame members, the plywood skin, the gunnels and the inner and outer chine caps. As each of these parts is installed and fastened together the stiffness of the boat increases dynamically. So what I am saying the frames share the load, each piece alone doesn't carry all of the load. It is a synergy of all the parts.

I hope this helps, let's see what other like Mike Baker suggest. He's built many, many more boats than I.

Here's a comparison of cypress to cedar.

Rick N

Permalink Reply by Rick Newman on July 6, 2016 at 3:32pm

Bennett, here's the missing link.

http://www.ehow.com/info_12022655_cypress-vs-cedar-wood.html

Rick N

Permalink Reply by Rick Newman on July 6, 2016 at 3:44pm
Permalink Reply by David Witton on July 6, 2016 at 3:45pm

I'd call some marine suppliers in the southeast and see what local woods the wooden boat builders are using - Doug fir, Port Orford and Alaskan Yellow are readily available in the northwest, so that's what folks there are commonly using. You can feel free to substitute the local favorite in your boat - it will give it personality. 

Permalink Reply by Bennett Yarbrough on July 8, 2016 at 8:31am

Thanks yall, I'm just going to sort through the cypress and pick some decent clear stuff.  Hopefully this is just a speed bump on the highway to drift boat awesomeness.

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