best way to flip a boat with pulleys

Ok my next quesiton is the best way to flip a drift boat with pulleys. Its just my wife and I and this freestone guide is now about 330#'s. I have a carport that I was thinking of hooking up a couple pulleys to with some straps. Was thinking I could just pull it up then carefully rotate it and set it down on a pair of saw horses so I can durak coat the bottom of the boat....

 

Or should I drop the pulley idea and just invite a couple friends over and flip it?

 

What approach is the best with minimal chances of damaging the boat?

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Permalink Reply by Dave Z on June 21, 2011 at 10:31am
case of beer.  5 friends and you.  then rook them into doing some additional work... sanding anyone?
Permalink Reply by Mike Collier on June 21, 2011 at 11:33am

I built a simple jig for turning the boat on its side.

Once its on the jig, me and 1 other can get it on a set of sawhorses pretty easy, and I'm sure this Kingfisher weighs more than your skiff.

 

check out these pic's and if you have any questions we can hook up and I'll explain it to you.

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Permalink Reply by Sandy Pittendrigh on June 21, 2011 at 12:46pm

I put foundation foam on the floor, in order to cushion the rollover. And then I do it myself. Get it up on its side, walk my hands around the pointed end, and then let it down. You do have to take one deep-slow breath and then make one or two quick steps around the front end, else you lose it.  Done it a thousand times. And never lost it yet. And then I call the chiroquackter. Works every time.

 

Last winter I got caught by an early snow storm and cold snap. Had no boat cover on. And I ended up with 700lbs of solid ice on the inside bottom. 12" thick. I put ropes through the oarlocks, with one rope going west to a tree, with the other rope going east to back end of my pickup truck. Put it gear and drove just far enough to watch the boat tip up and over. But it spun around and landed upside down on the rear end of the boat trailer.  Broke the transom right off.  But the ice did shatter and fall out.  Still haven't fixed that one.  But I do have 3 or 4 other boats. 

Permalink Reply by Mike Baker on June 21, 2011 at 2:07pm

Here is a pic. of how I flip. You mostly need the pulley set up for lowering the boat after you reach the point of no return. Unlike Sandy I have lost a boat when doing the quick step around the front of the boat. The stem came VERY close to hitting my Wife on the way over not pretty. So now I use pulleys. It helps if you attach the rope to the ceiling then attach a pulley to the boat and another pulley to the ceiling so you get a 2 to 1  mechanical advantage. I hope that made sense.

Mike

Permalink Reply by Kyle M. on June 21, 2011 at 4:21pm
Come-on! Man-Up! I flipped mine with the help of my 83 year old grandmother who happened to be around. Piece of cake. I lifted, till its on its side.  She then held it till I walked around and lowered it down.
Permalink Reply by Joseph Podesta on June 21, 2011 at 4:38pm

I cant MANUP I had 8 back surgeries this year...8 of them...pulleys will have to be the way it gets flipped...or you and your grandmother can come by and flip it for me? :) She is probably stronger than I am post op...They fused some discs in my back at the end...so I am sort of screwed when it comes to flipping boats over at this point but once it gets flipped its nice therapy to work on it..

 

I need to put an ad in the paper for some 83 year old grand mothers...that maybe better than the pulley idea...

Permalink Reply by Dave Z on June 21, 2011 at 7:25pm

Therapy?  My back always hurts after working on a boat. maybe i need to be smarter and work on them higher off the ground.

 

I need an 83 year old grandmother too.  She could help my stack my two boats on one trailer this weekend!

 

Permalink Reply by Joseph Podesta on June 21, 2011 at 7:34pm

seriously...my back hurts everytime I work on my boat thats why I am so eager to flip it over and put a coat of truck bed liner on the bottom...I should have done it a long while ago when i first started building it...now its almost complete and pretty heavy...insert 83 year old granny help here,,,,

 

Once this boat is complete I can just enjoy it...and my back can get some rest...

Permalink Reply by Eric Loudenslager on June 21, 2011 at 7:25pm

I use a pulley with advantage - set up using my whitewater z-drag system.  One person can hold the boat on its side (sheer edge/gunnel) and a second person can tip it over.  Then lower it with the pulley/z-drag setup.  Because drift boats have considerable side profile it is not very stable on edge.  M Baker's picture of a skiff has much more edge in contact with the floor when on the chine or sheer edge.  So I find a helper is essential.

 

You probably want to be very careful since you have had back surgery.  Even using the pulley system the opportunity for tweaking a joint was significant.

Permalink Reply by Rick Newman on June 22, 2011 at 10:02pm

Joseph, on the Wooden Boat Forum a guy is building a fairly large and heavy boat. When it came time to turn it over he constructed some temporary forms that formed a circle with the boat held inside. When it came time to turn it over thirty people showed up, however none of them appeared to be grandmothers. When the task was completed he stated that he thought that the system worked so well that he could have done the task alone! There are apparently a variety of ways to get the job done, especially when your grandmother would be about 120 if she were still alive! I'm with you on the back issues to, it doesn't feel good to be in a stationary vehicle when a Saab hits you going 55 + mph. Twelve years later it still hurts, perhaps the radiofrequency neuroablation later in the month will help.

 

Anyway good luck with you build.

 

Rick Newman

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